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Kinder Reference Goats

These are all animals I have owned but have sold. More reference animals (ones I have NOT owned) are listed in the Reference Goat album on the Facebook farm page.

Kinder Reference Bucks

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Zachary's Champion Goats Tigger 

April 06, 2016
Generation - 2nd
Height - 27"
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Tigger was my first Kinder. He is an incredibly good-natured buck, even in rut. The mammary systems and production in his paternal line are excellent. His dam was a correct, prolific doe. Tigger has been slower to grow but has now hit his max size and weight. He has weighed 140lb at 4 and 5 years old. He is correct with a nice topline and very good feet. If I had to pick an area to improve first, I would improve his rear leg angle, just a bit, and quicker growth.


So far, I think he has improved rear udder attachments and straightened teat placement in his daughters. He throws small kids, which has been very helpful when breeding to first fresheners.


In spring 2022, Tigger went to live with a good friend and wonderful Kinder breeder at Dualidad farm! Before he went, he was appraised and appraised very well! The evaluator especially liked his blending.
 

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Derek's Kinders FS Shiner

Kinder goat pedigree

August 11, 2019
Generation - 5th

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I am incredibly happy I added Shiner to the herd.

 

His dam, Sipsy, is one of my very favorite Kinders. She is incredibly prolific - 20 kids in 7 freshenings - and productive. Sipsy has milked over 2000lb on test, according to her breeder. His littermate sister Shimmer is incredibly correct and beautiful. Both have earned show wins, including GC at the Missouri State Fair and have been evaluated as Excellent.

This line has been bred to be efficient for both milk and meat, with close attention to birth weights and growth rates as well as milk production and ease of kidding and milking. All without sacrificing that mid-size and medium bone.


He is standing a little more toed-out than he actually is in this, but that is his biggest, flaw, to me. Interestingly, his hooves are excellent so I can't fault it too much when it doesn't affect function.


Shiner is usually sweet and likes to "chat" when you're around.

Excited to see how he crosses with my does - so far,  he has definitely improved growth rates and teat size. He's consistently improved escutcheons, making them high and wide. His daughters and kids in general are pretty distinctive and consistent. 

In June 2023, he went back to his breeder! You can see him at Dualidad Farm Caprines on Facebook - he has much better pictures than I do, too!

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Derek's Kinders LB Bandito

January 28, 2022
Generation - 3rd

Bandito is a handsome, large buckling out of one of my favorite Kinder does, Bright. Bright is a great example of the a lower generation of the breed, in my opinion. She's a bigger, powerful doe that is easy to milk, according to her breeder, and milked over 9lb as a 4th freshener, with 6% butterfat and 4% protein. For more information on her, check out Dualadid Farm's page on Facebook.

 

I wanted to bring in a lower generation buck that was mostly unrelated to anything I had. I am hoping Bandito will bring some size and muscling to the herd as well as production! He had a very successful first breeding season - once he stopped being dramatic about leading! He was easy to handle after that, and wasn't deterred by hard-to-catch does.

Bandito is friendly but he also likes to pick fights in the buck pen his first rut season. He also has a shockingly high voice he wants you to hear...a lot...

In 2023, Bandito has mellowed but he is still what I will call extra-vigorous about everything. He handled very nicely all breeding season, though. He maintains his body condition very well, especially considering how much sparring the bucks have done this year.

In 2024, I sold Bandito to a friend in order to keep his son.

 

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Kinder Reference Does

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Zachary's Champion Goats Bindi

June 13, 2012

 

Bindi was one of three doelings in a litter of quadruplets and has been a prolific doe herself, giving birth to triplets three times here and at least once for her breeder.

Bindi is an overall quality doe, though she is not a large doe. I would like to see tighter shoulders but that has proven to be easy to fix in one generation with the right buck. Her rump is a bit steep but wonderfully wide. She's aged quite gracefully - she's shown as an 8 year old in the watermarked side photo and the udder photo, for instance. All photos are from her at 8, 9, or 10 years of age.

She has good udder attachments even with this many freshenings, good teat placement, and is very easy to hand milk...except for the fact that Bindi does NOT like to be milked. She would MUCH rather feed kids. Bindi might get the sillies sometimes, but she's just as likely to walk up and breathe on you politely until you give her some chin and cheek rubs.

Bindi is an excellent dam and very tolerant of the other kids using her as playground. Most nights, you can find her sleeping by her daughter Topaz. I expect she'll remember Patience whenever the doelings are put back in with senior girls.

I decided to breed her one last time and in March '22, she gave me triplet doelings! Because of her age and tendency to get nervous the first couple days, I left only one doeling on her (Patience( and pulled the other two to raise on bottles. Bindi looks great this spring, especially for a doe turning 10! She will live out retirement here with her daughters, granddaughters, great-granddaughters and soon great-great granddaughters!

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Hefty Goat Holler Farm Noel

December 18, 2018
Generation - 3rd

Low-Maintenance Wallflower.

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Noel was my pick of the 2018 doelings from the start. Her dam and sire blended very nicely! Tigger improved the topline, teat placement, and toeing out.

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Noel is a wallflower goat - usually quiet, sometimes friendly for a moment but otherwise content with a short acknowledgment only.
I did find out she bellows like her dam when she's angry about sharing food! Noel gets in there to eat, and she even leads the herd out on occasion.


Noel kidded easily with twins three times while here - Nightingale is from her first freshening. Her udder improved greatly from her first freshening to her second, gaining capacity and and a stronger medial which in turn improved teat placement. I would still like to see larger teat diameter to help with milking ease, but I love how cylindrical they are.

 

It did take her a couple days to come to her milk the second freshening, but she did and then raised two wethers that were nearly as large as her by sale day. Noel is a calm, careful momma and just a solid, efficient brood doe. Her third freshening, she kidded with lovely buck doe twins sired by Bran. I milked her before she and her family went to her new owner and her milkability had much improved! Stood like a champ, too. Her Shiner daughter Nightingale is still in the herd.
 

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Noel's udder on a little less than a 12 hour fill second freshening. About 6 months fresh. Below is her first freshener udder  on about the same fill but just a few months fresh, to illustrate the improvement.

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Zachary's Champion Goats Topaz

April 13, 2016
Generation - 2nd

Beautiful & Challenging


Topaz is lovely Kinder doe. She is very proportionate and a great example of breed character, in my opinion. This maternal line is not large, but I think they're an efficient size. Topaz stays between 105-115lb when in good condition to a little pudgy.
 

Topaz is usually the most skittish doe in the herd but she's come a long way! She still occasionally gets the case of the sillies and runs away...but then she might come back and snuffle your face and ask for pets with a nibble. Interestingly, she's mannerly on the milk stand, generally. In terms of pecking order, she's content in the high middle of the herd.
 

Topaz has a nicely-attached udder, but I would like to see her milk down more and a longer foreudder. Her teats are now, on her fourth freshening, a little past her hocks, making it a bit harder for stubborn newborns to find. Her teats are such a wonderful size and shape for hand milking, though, and boast a great orifice, making her milk out very quickly. She gets 5/5 stars for ease of milking!

 

In, 2022 - she was milking about a quart at each 12 hour mark at a month fresh. In 2023, she was milking 3lb on no fill with her twin bucklings. At 7 months fresh, she tested at 9% butterfat!


Topaz has kidded easily with twins four times. Overall, she is a good dam but she is very nervous the first few days. Great hooves! Gains back body condition well after nursing. Her paternal granddam is a the beautiful Nubian SGCH Cozy Creek Shay Puddin' EEEE92.

In 2023, Topaz's daughter Hefty Goat Holler Farm Thistle, sired by DKG FS Shiner, took Grand Champion Jr in the Missouri State Fair! She's produced some lovely kids.

Topaz makes you work for her affection but she's a good one.

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Topaz's rear udder second and third (right) freshenings. 3rd freshening photo at the end of lactation. 

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Serena Kinders Priscilla

March 15, 2016
Generation - 2nd

Low-Maintenance + Longevity​

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I brought home Priscilla with her weaned buckling, Rio. She immediately became a favorite - friendly and laid back...except for her rivalry with Noodle. They were quite the frenemies. 

 

Snug udder though her teats pointed out a bit. She crossed very well with Tigger, producing Caroline, Noel, and Clarisse. 

Priscilla is a long doe with one of the most level, longest rumps on a Kinder I've personally seen. Little leggier than most but I didn't mind that a bit. Generally quiet until she was very mad at another doe (usually Noodle) and then she'd do this hilarious bellow that her daughter Caroline inherited...they also share the silly trait of sliding down hill on their bellies and doing a distinctive trot where they bob their heads side to side, making their ears flop.

Priscilla kidded with triplets here twice (each 2D 1B) and then buck twins. She was an easy kidder and always a good dam.

When I did a major downsizing, Priscilla went to a long-time Kinder breeder and friend where she's continued to excel as a dam. To date, as of 2024, Priscilla has birthed 21 kids in 8 freshenings, all live kids, too! 

 

In my current herd, she has a great granddaughter - Nightingale, a granddaughter  - Vixen, and a daughter - Caroline. She has many many offspring scattered across the country. Priscilla wouldn't have done well in a show but as far as functionality - she's a champ!

 

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Bonus Doe -Unregistered

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Domino

Early 2014
Breed - Nubian Cross

 

Domino is one of the original three goats of the holler, bought as doeling.

She has kidded with two singles, two sets of twins, and a set of triplets. She is an excellent dam with plenty of milk, though her udder attachments are utterly lacking. I have milked her​ and was pleasantly surprised with how easily she milked - her teats are a nice size and shape. She is my biggest doe at the moment. Crossed with Tigger, Domino has given me some incredibly chunky meat kids, making her a good brood doe.  


Domino is typically NOT an affectionate adult doe - she was clingy as a kid - but she has her moments with people. As far as other goats, everything is generally terrified of her because she is a great big jerk if you are any goat but her baby.

As of 2022, Domino is retired. She can live out her days being a grouchy butt here.

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